DISQUS

Colwal · 3 years ago

'A quote from you: "now that my faith demands proof, I'm waiting for the sign from God." I'm sorry that you can't see God, (or the Creator) in what He has created. As I've said many times, I can't not believe in God. "The heavens tell the glory of God, and the skies announce what his hands have made. ?Day after day they tell the story; night after night they tell it again. ?They have no speech or words; they have no voice to be heard. But their message goes out through all the world; their words go everywhere on earth." It seems nonsense to me to claim that the impersonal created the personal, and mindlessness can create minds. My children were not created from a chance combination of atoms, and their personalities did not come from some ever-existent cloud of dust. The evidence for the existence of God is always around us for all to see. To demand our own special proof is perhaps a little unreasonable, and is maybe saying to God, "I will not exercise faith. You must provide extra absolute proof just for me". If the magnificence of creation isn't enough proof, then nothing will satisfy. Many believers have learned faith through trials, while many harden their hearts because of trials. Each must choose, but remember that to harden the heart is to unknowingly become harder of personality, and to lose the gentleness and love that we once had.

Abs · 3 years ago

I am glad I read this because I love sharing about Him. I was born a Hindu and I remained a Hindu until 2 years back where I was introduced to the concept of the God. I laughed initially but was taken aback when one of my friends said that his goal in his life is to serve God. That made me research more. I went to a conference in Indy which totally changed my heart. I used to be a pretty arrogant person but the personal relationship that you get from Him is the only proof. Actually, I am not gonna call it proof, but instead, I will call it axiom. Its the truth. I hear God's voice in the conviction that occurs in my heart. I would love to talk about it more. Peace.

Colwal · 3 years ago

'A quote from you: "now that my faith demands proof, I'm waiting for the sign from God." I'm sorry that you can't see God, (or the Creator) in what He has created. As I've said many times, I can't not believe in God. "The heavens tell the glory of God, and the skies announce what his hands have made. Day after day they tell the story; night after night they tell it again. They have no speech or words; they have no voice to be heard. But their message goes out through all the world; their words go everywhere on earth." It seems nonsense to me to claim that the impersonal created the personal, and mindlessness can create minds. My children were not created from a chance combination of atoms, and their personalities did not come from some ever-existent cloud of dust. The evidence for the existence of God is always around us for all to see. To demand our own special proof is perhaps a little unreasonable, and is maybe saying to God, "I will not exercise faith. You must provide extra absolute proof just for me". If the magnificence of creation isn't enough proof, then nothing will satisfy. Many believers have learned faith through trials, while many harden their hearts because of trials. Each must choose, but remember that to harden the heart is to unknowingly become harder of personality, and to lose the gentleness and love that we once had.

Abs · 3 years ago

I am glad I read this because I love sharing about Him. I was born a Hindu and I remained a Hindu until 2 years back where I was introduced to the concept of the God. I laughed initially but was taken aback when one of my friends said that his goal in his life is to serve God. That made me research more. I went to a conference in Indy which totally changed my heart. I used to be a pretty arrogant person but the personal relationship that you get from Him is the only proof. Actually, I am not gonna call it proof, but instead, I will call it axiom. Its the truth. I hear God's voice in the conviction that occurs in my heart. I would love to talk about it more. Peace.

adam · 3 years ago

maybe you need to make a choice to follow God. isn't that what faith is all about? choosing to follow when it doesn't look like you should? Faith is "being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Choose to follow God and your feeling surrounding faith might change.

adam · 3 years ago

maybe you need to make a choice to follow God. isn't that what faith is all about? choosing to follow when it doesn't look like you should? Faith is "being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Choose to follow God and your feeling surrounding faith might change.

adam · 3 years ago

maybe you need to make a choice to follow God. isn't that what faith is all about? choosing to follow when it doesn't look like you should? Faith is "being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Choose to follow God and your feeling surrounding faith might change.

joshnunn · 3 years ago

Thanks Adam, you've made me a Christian again. Golly - how could I have been so blind? I mean - when things don't make sense, and I wonder if I can sustain a small faith, alls I need is to have faith! Thanks again...

joshnunn · 3 years ago

Thanks Adam, you've made me a Christian again. Golly - how could I have been so blind? I mean - when things don't make sense, and I wonder if I can sustain a small faith, alls I need is to have faith! Thanks again...

joshnunn · 3 years ago

Thanks Adam, you've made me a Christian again. Golly - how could I have been so blind? I mean - when things don't make sense, and I wonder if I can sustain a small faith, alls I need is to have faith! Thanks again...

Kel · 3 years ago

I've loved reading your blog. Your honesty is so refreshing and gutsy. I'm not writing coz I have any answers for you, but to encourage you to keep asking God for the evidence you feel you need. I don't think that is unreasonable. In fact I truly believe God delights in your honest heart. Having been in the same situation as Mil in the past, I can tell you I have many times cried out for answers, evidence of his love and involvement in my life. God has shown himself to me sometimes in extremely powerful ways and sometimes he's only given me enough just to keep going. It’s often been through the wrestling with God and issues that I’ve experienced God and have grown in faith. Yes, faith is very important but it's ok to ask for more. We do need personal evidence. God is a personal God which I know you've heard many times, so of course you would need to experience him personally.

Kel · 3 years ago

I've loved reading your blog. Your honesty is so refreshing and gutsy. I'm not writing coz I have any answers for you, but to encourage you to keep asking God for the evidence you feel you need. I don't think that is unreasonable. In fact I truly believe God delights in your honest heart. Having been in the same situation as Mil in the past, I can tell you I have many times cried out for answers, evidence of his love and involvement in my life. God has shown himself to me sometimes in extremely powerful ways and sometimes he's only given me enough just to keep going. It’s often been through the wrestling with God and issues that I’ve experienced God and have grown in faith. Yes, faith is very important but it's ok to ask for more. We do need personal evidence. God is a personal God which I know you've heard many times, so of course you would need to experience him personally.

Kel · 3 years ago

I've loved reading your blog. Your honesty is so refreshing and gutsy. I'm not writing coz I have any answers for you, but to encourage you to keep asking God for the evidence you feel you need. I don't think that is unreasonable. In fact I truly believe God delights in your honest heart. Having been in the same situation as Mil in the past, I can tell you I have many times cried out for answers, evidence of his love and involvement in my life. God has shown himself to me sometimes in extremely powerful ways and sometimes he's only given me enough just to keep going. It’s often been through the wrestling with God and issues that I’ve experienced God and have grown in faith. Yes, faith is very important but it's ok to ask for more. We do need personal evidence. God is a personal God which I know you've heard many times, so of course you would need to experience him personally.

Chris G · 2 years ago

Hi Josh,
I don't see many (if any) comments on your God Blog from atheists, so here's your daily dose of apostasy.



It sounds like you're well on your way to becoming an atheist (or at least agnostic), but feeling pressure to not let go of your faith, either from friends and family or you own inhibitions.



You make several good arguments against the existence of God and the validity of Christianity and they're consistent with many of the traditional arguments against religion.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God



I'm impressed to see you question the virtue of Faith. In this enlightened age, surely believing things contrary to available evidence should not be valued above reason.



I'll list a few authors you may like to consider reading, in the hope that you might gain some inspiration from them. For an atheist, these books are not confronting to read, but a recovering Christian could find them offensive and insulting.



Sam Harris (especially "End of Faith")

Richard Dawkins ("The God Delusion")

Bertrand Russell

Daniel C. Dennett ("Breaking the Spell")

Christopher Hitchens



Good luck

joshnunn · 2 years ago

Thank you Chris for leaving a comment. I haven't written in this 'godblog' for quite a while now. I was preparing to subsume it into my other blog again.


I haven't written in a while because I really haven't got much more to say. Besides being a lot more firm in my belief that I need more evidence, nothing much has changed for me. I see no reason to decide categorically that I am an atheist, as there is no shame for me in sitting on the fence any more. My wife remains a Christian, and perhaps that holds me back in part, but I really see no need to go much further than I have at the moment. Part of me even holds a tiny hope that one day God will declare Himself to me.



To both Christians and Atheists I sound wishy-washy but I'm just saying aloud what about 80% of the population live (if not think about).

TB · 2 months ago

I am that I am - says it all. If you doubt long enough you wont have to wait for the answer it will be brought to you and by then it will be too late-eternity is a loooooooong time. You have a free will the same thing that satan had and he rejected God and was jealous of him-stop trying to reason out a God from the limited perception of a created man,you insult yor own intelligence and Gods perfect will for your life. Theres no time for wishy washy nice-isms.God didnt say it would be a smooth ride,a fair system he just said it would be. You dont have to cut your finger off to prove the knife is sharp-unless you want too.

joshnunn · 2 months ago

I'm really uncertain how to respond to this. If I understand you, I must simply take it on faith that god exists or risk burning in hell. On nothing more than what? Your word? The word of a million liars or delusional people throughout the centuries? Why not Allah, why not FSM? If I cannot use the perceptions that "god created" for me, then what am I left with other than the particular flavour of religion I was born to? That's probably it. God wants me to burn in hell because I was born a Wesleyan Methodist Christian, not a Baptist or a Hindu.