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  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    It's good that you're being forced (in a sense) to think through all that you accepted by faith in what others have assured you is true. I believe, (have faith), that God is there. There is too much incredible complexity in creation and too much information in even the smallest life-forms on even the cellular level to believe otherwise. You can give this intelligence any name you choose, but he is still the Creator. I also believe that if you are as honest as you (and I), believe you are, then you will eventually come to a true knowledge of Him. I would suggest though that the heart of man is pretty dishonest and will look for reasons to disbelieve if he feels cheated by God, is afraid of God, or is angry at God. Be honestly sure of your own motives.
  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    A quote from Anthony Flew "If you walk down the beach and you see ripples in the sand, it's logical to say that's a complex arrangement of the sand that the waves produced. But if you walk down the beach and you see "John Loves Mary" and a big heart around it and an arrow through it, you wouldn't think the waves produced it. It's information with content. The biological information of a living organism is biological information. Nature can't produce that. It takes intelligence to produce information. Whenever we see a novel or a cave painting or data on a computer, we know there's an intelligence behind it. When we look at the four-letter chemical alphabet of DNA and how it spells out the precise assembly instructions for every protein out of which our body is built, to me that points in the direction of an intelligence behind it. It isn't just complexity."


    There is no end to the theories of those that want to put God out of their thinking. Theories like yours can be in my opinion cop-outs. For those that want to ignore the fact that the universe we live in is too fabulously complex for life to have evolved, and perfectly balanced for complex life forms such as man, there are many new theories about multiple universes etc. These and countless other new theories are able to be thought up. There is a veritable endless smorgasboard of ideas to enable us to avoid what our common sense and conscience tells us - that God is there.
  • Sister Vic · 3 years ago
    I think that one of the difficulties with growing up within a Christian family and being a Christian for most of your life, is that you can become deaf and blind to God's presence. It's almost like God becomes a hum in the background of your life and you can no longer hear Him. It's like He is the sky - you know it's there and it's blue, but you don't bother looking at it any more. God can become like that in your life.


    I've seen it happen time and time again, and for many years I pondered why many Christians in this situation walked away from God as a result of not having proof of his existence or no sense of His presence. I didn't know how to respond when many years ago, a Christian friend asked me why he couldn't hear God and was questioning his faith. He began to doubt all that he had been taught.



    If I could talk to him now I would say, "If you truly want God to show you He is real and to have a real sense of His presence, then be prepared for difficulties and battles. It is through these that God often reaches us - when we are at the bottom of a pit of suffering and pain, or loss and heartbreak, that we can let go of the preconceptions we have built up of who God is, and destroy the barriers we unconsciously build between us and Him."



    Sometimes we build the barriers in a foolish endeavour to protect ourselves from Him and others, and sometimes to fool ourselves into thinking we are someehing better than we really are - to hide ourselves from the true vision of our fallen humanity.



    Once those barriers come down, then God can reach through to you.



    To knock those barriers down, can require a time of pain and difficulty, and it is through these difficuties, when we are free of hindrances and pretension that we can be open and true with ourselves and open and true with God.



    But it takes a brave soul to ask that of God - to be willing to go through pain and suffering to REALLY know him.



    Are you willing?
  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    It's good that you're being forced (in a sense) to think through all that you accepted by faith in what others have assured you is true. I believe, (have faith), that God is there. There is too much incredible complexity in creation and too much information in even the smallest life-forms on even the cellular level to believe otherwise. You can give this intelligence any name you choose, but he is still the Creator. I also believe that if you are as honest as you (and I), believe you are, then you will eventually come to a true knowledge of Him. I would suggest though that the heart of man is pretty dishonest and will look for reasons to disbelieve if he feels cheated by God, is afraid of God, or is angry at God. Be honestly sure of your own motives.
  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    It's good that you're being forced (in a sense) to think through all that you accepted by faith in what others have assured you is true. I believe, (have faith), that God is there. There is too much incredible complexity in creation and too much information in even the smallest life-forms on even the cellular level to believe otherwise. You can give this intelligence any name you choose, but he is still the Creator. I also believe that if you are as honest as you (and I), believe you are, then you will eventually come to a true knowledge of Him. I would suggest though that the heart of man is pretty dishonest and will look for reasons to disbelieve if he feels cheated by God, is afraid of God, or is angry at God. Be honestly sure of your own motives.
  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    A quote from Anthony Flew "If you walk down the beach and you see ripples in the sand, it's logical to say that's a complex arrangement of the sand that the waves produced. But if you walk down the beach and you see "John Loves Mary" and a big heart around it and an arrow through it, you wouldn't think the waves produced it. It's information with content. The biological information of a living organism is biological information. Nature can't produce that. It takes intelligence to produce information. Whenever we see a novel or a cave painting or data on a computer, we know there's an intelligence behind it. When we look at the four-letter chemical alphabet of DNA and how it spells out the precise assembly instructions for every protein out of which our body is built, to me that points in the direction of an intelligence behind it. It isn't just complexity."

    There is no end to the theories of those that want to put God out of their thinking. Theories like yours can be in my opinion cop-outs. For those that want to ignore the fact that the universe we live in is too fabulously complex for life to have evolved, and perfectly balanced for complex life forms such as man, there are many new theories about multiple universes etc. These and countless other new theories are able to be thought up. There is a veritable endless smorgasboard of ideas to enable us to avoid what our common sense and conscience tells us - that God is there.
  • Colonel Walter · 3 years ago
    A quote from Anthony Flew "If you walk down the beach and you see ripples in the sand, it's logical to say that's a complex arrangement of the sand that the waves produced. But if you walk down the beach and you see "John Loves Mary" and a big heart around it and an arrow through it, you wouldn't think the waves produced it. It's information with content. The biological information of a living organism is biological information. Nature can't produce that. It takes intelligence to produce information. Whenever we see a novel or a cave painting or data on a computer, we know there's an intelligence behind it. When we look at the four-letter chemical alphabet of DNA and how it spells out the precise assembly instructions for every protein out of which our body is built, to me that points in the direction of an intelligence behind it. It isn't just complexity."

    There is no end to the theories of those that want to put God out of their thinking. Theories like yours can be in my opinion cop-outs. For those that want to ignore the fact that the universe we live in is too fabulously complex for life to have evolved, and perfectly balanced for complex life forms such as man, there are many new theories about multiple universes etc. These and countless other new theories are able to be thought up. There is a veritable endless smorgasboard of ideas to enable us to avoid what our common sense and conscience tells us - that God is there.
  • Sister Vic · 3 years ago
    I think that one of the difficulties with growing up within a Christian family and being a Christian for most of your life, is that you can become deaf and blind to God's presence. It's almost like God becomes a hum in the background of your life and you can no longer hear Him. It's like He is the sky - you know it's there and it's blue, but you don't bother looking at it any more. God can become like that in your life.

    I've seen it happen time and time again, and for many years I pondered why many Christians in this situation walked away from God as a result of not having proof of his existence or no sense of His presence. I didn't know how to respond when many years ago, a Christian friend asked me why he couldn't hear God and was questioning his faith. He began to doubt all that he had been taught.

    If I could talk to him now I would say, "If you truly want God to show you He is real and to have a real sense of His presence, then be prepared for difficulties and battles. It is through these that God often reaches us - when we are at the bottom of a pit of suffering and pain, or loss and heartbreak, that we can let go of the preconceptions we have built up of who God is, and destroy the barriers we unconsciously build between us and Him."

    Sometimes we build the barriers in a foolish endeavour to protect ourselves from Him and others, and sometimes to fool ourselves into thinking we are someehing better than we really are - to hide ourselves from the true vision of our fallen humanity.

    Once those barriers come down, then God can reach through to you.

    To knock those barriers down, can require a time of pain and difficulty, and it is through these difficuties, when we are free of hindrances and pretension that we can be open and true with ourselves and open and true with God.

    But it takes a brave soul to ask that of God - to be willing to go through pain and suffering to REALLY know him.

    Are you willing?